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Anonymous
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posted: 4/3/2005 at 10:51:51 PM ET
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In Medieval Europe, who was the "Groom of the Stool" and what was his daily life like?

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I think you're talking about the poop smith. Now the poop smith had many duties... but his main duty was to shovel poop from one pile into another. I do not see how this will apply to music. Unless you like the sound of poop splashing. It does have a slightly musical quality. Hmmmmm.....

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posted: 4/10/2005 at 7:07:15 PM ET
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While I get irritated at some of the negative posters here, I must agree this time.This has nothing to do with music. i did search google (which the original poster could done themselves) and found this.

GROOM OF THE STOOL

Henry VIII ... would you have wiped his bum?


The groom of the stool was basically Henry VIII's chief bum-wiper. He had to look after the King's poo.

And if you didn't do a good job first time around then you could always mop it up with what was called a diper, which was actually a diamond shape piece of linen with a pattern on it.

Thankfully I only mocked that one in the series, no hairy arse was pointed in my direction.

And given how gross Henry VIII was by the time he got to middle age, it was way down the list of jobs that I wanted to experiment.

The strange thing about the groom of the stool is that you'd think it would be the worst job anyone could do, but in fact you became such an intimate of the King only courtiers were chosen to do it.

It was also a very dangerous position to hold, because you were right in the thick of the things you were the Alan Milburn of your day!

You could rise up the ranks, but go back down just as quickly. And it was not unknown for grooms of the stool to end up with their heads chopped off.

For instance one of them was executed after being accused of having hanky panky with Anne Boleyn.



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posted: 4/10/2005 at 7:14:51 PM ET
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Thank you for the information. Actually, this is a music related topic, because my favorite local jazz artist calls him "Groom of the Stool." I wanted to know what the name meant.

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posted: 4/11/2005 at 3:53:20 AM ET
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An interesting point about Big Henry which came to light in view of a discussion about the embalming of the late Pope is that Henry's corpse in fact exploded prior to being put in the coffin.It would be a tough job..up at the, er, crack of dawn every morning.
My Historian Uncle tells me that cleansing of the nether regions after a call of nature was done using water, much as is done in Asian countries today, and the linen diper was used for drying.
Hey, toilet functions in the Middle Ages is obviously a big thing when you look into it (as our friend the Groom no doubt said)...

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We should have jobs like this today, so you could apply.

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    quote:
    While I get irritated at some of the negative posters here, I must agree this time.This has nothing to do with music. i did search google (which the original poster could done themselves) and found this.

    GROOM OF THE STOOL

    Henry VIII ... would you have wiped his bum?


    The groom of the stool was basically Henry VIII's chief bum-wiper. He had to look after the King's poo.

    And if you didn't do a good job first time around then you could always mop it up with what was called a diper, which was actually a diamond shape piece of linen with a pattern on it.

    Thankfully I only mocked that one in the series, no hairy arse was pointed in my direction.

    And given how gross Henry VIII was by the time he got to middle age, it was way down the list of jobs that I wanted to experiment.

    The strange thing about the groom of the stool is that you'd think it would be the worst job anyone could do, but in fact you became such an intimate of the King only courtiers were chosen to do it.

    It was also a very dangerous position to hold, because you were right in the thick of the things you were the Alan Milburn of your day!

    You could rise up the ranks, but go back down just as quickly. And it was not unknown for grooms of the stool to end up with their heads chopped off.

    For instance one of them was executed after being accused of having hanky panky with Anne Boleyn.
hello all, I just wanted to comment on this post (I didn't know this about Henry VIII's chief bum-wiper)and agree with some of the irritating posts I've read. Les ...
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And given how gross Henry VIII was by the time he got to middle age, it was way down the list of jobs that I wanted to experiment.

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