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Bandirector
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9/27/2007 | posted: 3/17/2008 at 8:33:56 AM ET
The accidental flat will carry over for the entire measure unless there is an accidental natural or sharp on that note in that measure that cancels it out. The accidental will not, however, carry over to the next measure. It will have to be reprinted.
It might help if you tell us what the other notes in the other voices are at the time of the accidental Gb.
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 maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 3/19/2008 at 10:11:13 PM ET
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well sorry to come forward again but i am trying to clear up the longevity of the accidental thing: if, in a bar, a g flat is shown using the accidetal b, and subsequently, a g note is shown without any accidentals in the same bar, would it signify gb?
where i come from from, there are practically no good theory teachers so this place is the only one where i can get my doubts cleared...thnx for answering the earlier ques...
Maybe it's an older way of notation, but I'm confused now. If the key has Gb in it, i.e. Db Major (Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb)then the flat you mention is redundant. The note is already flat. The notation should be a double flat (bb). That is the only way to lower a note already flatted. Am I wrong, BandDirector?
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maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 3/19/2008 at 10:14:30 PM ET
This is the best online music theory site I know of. Work with it and see if it helps. A lack of good music teachers can make learning music difficult.
http://www.musictheory.net/
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Bandirector
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9/27/2007 | posted: 3/20/2008 at 8:23:27 AM ET
I seem to remember from my college theory classes that in classical notation if a flat is added to a note that is already flat in a key signature, then the note becomes double flat.
Often times if a note has an accidental in a previous measure, it is customary to remind the player that the note in the following measure is indeed flat, however, the proper way to do that is by putting parentheses around the accidental that follows in line with the key signature. It occurs a lot in jazz notation and is called a courtesy accidental.
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saatwik
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3/17/2008 | posted: 3/21/2008 at 5:11:02 AM ET
hello im the anonymous guy who started th thread and hav registered
about the courtesy accidental, is it a jazz thing exclusively? Bcoz right now i'm referring to chopin's etudes only
there are no parentheses around the accidental anywhere.
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Bandirector
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9/27/2007 | posted: 3/22/2008 at 3:00:03 PM ET
The parentheses is not just a jazz thing. I think that the accidental is telling you that you need to play a G double flat. Can you tell me the other notes that are being played at the same time as the note in question. That might help me figure out what the chord is and therefore what note it should be.
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sbochat
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4/25/2007 | posted: 5/4/2008 at 11:18:21 PM ET
One flat only means one flat. It is prob. a cautionary accidental.
me
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Bandirector
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9/27/2007 | posted: 5/5/2008 at 9:05:08 AM ET
"One flat only means one flat. It is prob. a cautionary accidental."
I'm sorry, but, as stated in my previous posts, this is not always true.
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