|
|
| Go to page: Next or 1, 2, 3 |
| Author | Topic: I HATE .....M U ...... |
TheHornSupremacy
Registered User
Registered:
11/17/2004 | posted: 6/7/2005 at 3:40:27 PM ET
Hey suzyq,
I'm not surprised to hear that your teacher mixes in some theory with your lessons - I can't imagine anyone really getting involved with any instrument without learning at least the basics of theory.
Beyond that, only the real fanatics truly enjoy theory!
|  imnidiot
Registered User
From:
Ashley PA
Registered:
3/28/2005 | posted: 6/7/2005 at 5:38:10 PM ET
To annonymous, Beethoven was very depressed about his loss of hearing. Even though one can hear the music in one's head, it's not the same as actually experiencing it with the physical sense of hearing. I hear music in my head all the time, and my frustration stems from my lack of music reading ability and not being able to write the music on paper. If I can't play what's in my head on the piano or guitar, it's equally frustrating. I can sometimes hear entire symphonies in my head, but cannot translate them to paper. Blind people can still perform most things related to art. Blind people can draw, sculpt, write, play music, ski, ride a bike, and I've even seen a blind contractor climb on a roof and inspect shingles by feel. I'd still prefer my hearing.
I am a fragment of my imagination
| wonderflute
Registered User
From:
Mississippi
Registered:
7/2/2004 | posted: 6/7/2005 at 6:35:15 PM ET
Really, I think this person only wrote that to get attention, for I can't believe that anyone would hate music in general. Other than that though, why has there lately been so many posters that don't seem to know how to write in a grammatically correct form?
I am only a speck upon another speck floating in a pool of galaxy
| imnidiot
Registered User
From:
Ashley PA
Registered:
3/28/2005 | posted: 6/7/2005 at 11:49:39 PM ET
Wonderflute, I work at all the schools in the district which serves my local area, and I could tell you stories that would make you cringe with disbelief. The standardized test scores are always below the recognized standards for our entire geographical area. The problem is many fold. First, we have an above average number of low income families, which really shouldn't be a factor, second, there is a less than acceptable amount of apathy on the part of some parents, students, and most ashamedly, teachers, and a misunderstanding of the problems on a state and national level. There have been so many deviations to the old proven methods of education of the past. Also there are the bleeding heart liberals who can't comprehend the concept of accountability on any level. Everyone is a victim of environment, financial and social circumstances etc. no one is responsible for their actions. So much money is wasted on Psychologists, Social workers, Enablers, Counselors and sports, that education really becomes secondary by default. Then even more money is spent to re- teach that which wasn't learned the first time. The sad part is that most of the so called educated experts either can't recognige the problem or are too embarressed to admit to and correct the problems. When I went to school, everyone could read, write, and we all knew the math facts, even the worst students!. The average student is lucky to be able to write his/ her name. I've seen Seniors counting on their fingers to do the simplest addition problems. This is the problem in a nutshell. We need more educational competition to spur the "manopoly" public school system to perform it's job. It was our government that mandated education in the first place, and it is govrenments' job to provide the highest quality education possible. There are many examples across the country in all classes which are proof that it is possible. Forgive me for my rant, but seeing a failing system first hand, I feel obligated to share my views. This does pertain to this forum, as music is a vital part of a total education. If anyone is bored or offended by this commentary, then they may fit one or more of the above mentioned catagories of slackers. sincerely, Don P.S. I neglected to mention that I constantly bring these issue to the attention of school administrators, and state education department officials. I am not a bystander, I get involved on every level possible.
I am a fragment of my imagination
| suzyq
Registered User
Registered:
11/18/2004 | posted: 6/8/2005 at 7:26:40 AM ET
Don,
I see the results of education or lack of it on a smaller level.
I'm a volunteet tutor (reading, writing, spelling and sometimes basic arithmetic) at a local neighborhood center. It sad to say, but I've had 4th and 5th graders who don't know the times table, have a hard time reading and writing and you know sadly the rest.
Whose braingstorm came up with the whole language program. That's part of most of the problem - it dosen't teach kids to sound out words or the old fashioned phonics and the way we learned. Sometimes the old ways are best. Even the younger kids 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders (and this is when the foundations of reading, writing and arithmetic are formed) have problems. In New York I find that kids from homes where only Spanish or any language but English is spoken have a hard time. As far a arithmetic is concerned, they pull out a calulators. Garbage In, Garbage Out is what I tell them and will not allow them to use them. The center dosen't allow kids to use calulators either.
I wish I had the answer, it's very sad to be a witness to this lack of education even on a smaller scale. What is the answer, I wonder. I'm happy that we still have educators like you who care and are trying to find a better way.
| Sunny Jim
Registered User
Registered:
6/9/2005 | posted: 6/9/2005 at 5:19:31 AM ET
hi suzyq and horn supremacy,just thought i'd say "don't give up on the music theory!" what grade you doing? you will get ter in the end!i think it's worth it!alot lot easier than sight reading!
| suzyq
Registered User
Registered:
11/18/2004 | posted: 6/9/2005 at 10:37:54 AM ET
Hi Sunny Jim,
Have to say that sight reading is easier to learn than theory. I suppose it comes from daily pracice and something I can't put a finger on. Still have trouble reading notes that go above or below the staff lines, especially chords. But I know in time that to will come.
Theory is a whole different ballgame altogether. Each time I enrolled in a theory class meant for beginners only, there were students in the class who had two or more years of musical background than I and the tearcher played to the more advanced student and I was out in left field. So as they say forgeddabout it.
I have a teacher who depending on the piece to be learned, sometimes explains why and how the chords or notes work and for me it's probably the best way - learn by doing. Must be years of dance training - I learn best by demonstration or just showing me how things work. We all have different learning curves. Whatever works for you is the best way. Thanks for the pep talk.
| imnidiot
Registered User
From:
Ashley PA
Registered:
3/28/2005 | posted: 6/9/2005 at 3:44:33 PM ET
suzyq, there is a trick to the notes above and below the staff, they switch positions. The line notes become space notes, and the space notes become line notes.
I am a fragment of my imagination
| | Page 2 of 3 | | Go to page: Next or 1, 2, 3 |
|
Do you think this topic is inappropriate? Vote it down. After a thread receives a certain amount of negative votes it will be automatically locked.
Please contact us with any concerns you might have.
|
