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maintube
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posted: 11/11/2004 at 4:34:46 PM ET
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No problem, Bitter. Just trying to give USEFUL advice.

alwayslearningpianist
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posted: 11/18/2004 at 7:32:23 PM ET
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I learned by ear, and I can play moonlight Sonata fine. Actually won a small town competition playing it. I still don't know how to read sheet music. But good lessons are advisable. I just enrolled in some just to learn to read and play at the same time

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posted: 11/21/2004 at 12:18:22 PM ET
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Excuse me but Bitterangel wants to learn music and then to be able to perform Moonlight. Isn't it quite difficult to perform this sonata without knowing about music? It includes a lot of complicated details. One must know at least about piano before performing it, even if performs it based on nothing but ear.

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Not to mention that tempo must be correct.

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DUDE
i can play classical music and i can play rock. and i think you can learn better BY YOURSELF if you are motived and willing to teach yourself


maintube
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posted: 11/30/2004 at 11:33:51 AM ET
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Grow up and stop calling people "dude", Dud.

You may be self-taught and may be a fine player, BUT you cannot play classical music of Beethoven, Bach, or Mozart without training. It is just too hard. If you play by ear how are you learning the music? If you have learned to read music on your own, then congratulations. Even the classical composers had teachers. Mozart is regarded by many as the greatest musician and composer to ever live and he was not self taught.

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Maintube

Good reply - hope he follows your good avice

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    My name is not "dude". Freaking grow up. She wants to play Beethovens Moonlight Sonata. I can virually guarantee that she cna't play that song by self teaching. Can you learn to get around on the piano and play melodies and simple chords? Yes. Play "real" piano music? NO. If you cna't give REALISTIC advice don't give any. DUDE!

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      Grow up and stop calling people "dude", Dud.
    You may be self-taught and may be a fine player, BUT you cannot play classical music of Beethoven, Bach, or Mozart without training. It is just too hard. If you play by ear how are you learning the music? If you have learned to read music on your own, then congratulations. Even the classical composers had teachers. Mozart is regarded by many as the greatest musician and composer to ever live and he was not self taught.
I don’t necessarily agree with “you cannot play classical music of Beethoven, Bach, or Mozart without training”. I think you learn a lot from playing by ear. I self taught myself piano about 11 years ago (when i was 8 or so). I also play the trumpet, so i did learn theory and stuff along the way that aided in my piano playing. But until I got to college, and had an ear training-sight singing course, i didn’t realize that learning by ear has helped me develop almost perfect pitch. I’ve also learned how to figure out what the music sounds like before playing it. I had lessons for about 6 months when i was like 12, but found it not helpful for its bucks.

I’ve taught myself everything I know on piano, and I’ve taught myself Moonlight sonata. Now bitterangle doesn’t know as much as I do on music theory, but she can still teach herself Mozart. She can get books and study them, and just listen to good classical piano pieces to see how they will sound. Once she has a basic understanding on how to phrase the melody and put her emotion into music she will then be able to better teach herself moonlight sonata.


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