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AJ
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11/5/2004 | posted: 11/5/2004 at 12:23:20 PM ET
How in the world do you learn to sing music?
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 maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 11/5/2004 at 1:43:32 PM ET
?????????
How do you talk? How do you walk? You just do. If you can sing a simple song (Mary Had a Little Lamb) and it sounds right then you can sing. If it doesn't sound right then it's not because you can't sing, it's because you have a hearing problem. Tone deafness or a literal hearing problem.
I think you may be trying to ask how do you read vocal music or music in general.
That's a whole nother problem.
Please clarify.
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One Tenor
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11/8/2004 | posted: 11/8/2004 at 12:27:31 PM ET
Anyone know a good website so I can learn proper pitch? I can read music once I start on the right note. I need to see the music and hear the note. Getting tired of relying on my first Tenor to start me. Thansk!
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maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 11/8/2004 at 4:36:04 PM ET
If you mean perfect pitch. you can't. There is web site that (for a fee)promises to teach you perfect pitch, but in talking to people who have PP they say it cannot be taught.I ,however, do not remember the URL. Go to Google and type in perfect pitch and see what you get. Learning good relative pitch can be taught, and if you can already sing well you probably already have that.
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TheHornSupremacy
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11/17/2004 | posted: 11/17/2004 at 1:01:22 PM ET
I think I would disagree with you, maintube, slightly on this one - though it's mostly just semantics. I think perfect pitch can be learned. If I sit at a keyboard for an hour a day for a month and play nothing but middle C, eventually that pitch will be etched in my brain, and whenever anyone says "sing a middle C", I'll hit it every time. True pitch, on the other hand, is genetic. It think that's the one that has to do more with relative pitches. For example, if someone gives you the starting note to a song and asks you to sing it a cappella, 9 out of 10 people will be off pitch by the time they get to the end of the song. People that have true pitch will still be on key.
But again, it's mostly semantics. Individual notes can be learned. Notes relative to other notes and hitting intervals perfectly can't.
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maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 11/17/2004 at 4:50:17 PM ET
I still say that you cannot learn perfect pitch. Perfect pitch means that if a note is played on any thing, You can tell what that note is. I've seen people with PP tell the notes of a ringing church with the overtones. Or hear a train whistle and tell exactly what the notes are. That is perfect pitch. That cannot be taught. It's as inherited a trait as eye color or height. Relative pitch, however, can be taught and improved. Relative pitch is the ability to "relate" one pitch to another after hearing a note. Most (almost all, in fact) people have good relative pitch. In some it is better simply because it is used more (musicians). Tone deafness is the exact opposite of perfect pitch. You cannot distinguish between tones no matter how hard you try.
That's how I understand the differnce in perfect and relative pitch.
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TheHornSupremacy
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11/17/2004 | posted: 11/18/2004 at 9:21:53 AM ET
I think we're basically saying the same thing, just in different words - like I said, semantics. We both agree that there is a difference between perfect and relative pitch, and that one cannot be learned.
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maintube
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5/26/2004 | posted: 11/18/2004 at 11:22:19 AM ET
horn do you live in the states or in Europe? That may be the reason in semantic differences.
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