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AuthorTopic:   late bloomers
toonz
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posted: 4/8/2005 at 12:26:20 AM ET
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Hey Suzyq,

Sorry to hear you are in a "slump". And wouldn't you know it, I am on a "high" right now. The lights are going on all over the place and I can do no wrong.
I have come to visualize my music education as being a series of highs and lows. A sort of wavy line, if you will, that slants upwards. This upward slant represents the resulting improvement. Perhaps if you expect and accept that there are going to be good days and bad days (or weeks) along the way, those hard times won't be so hard to bear. I am pretty darn sure, without even having spoken to others about this, that this is normal and to be expected. Perhaps you just need to be creative in the way you deal with your slumps. Maybe go back and look at a piece from long ago that you were struggling with and thought you would NEVER get. Maybe seeing that yes, it took a while but that you DID get it will help a little.
Carry on my dear. Don't worry, the storm shall pass!

Pete
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posted: 4/8/2005 at 4:30:04 AM ET
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..Storm..? Huh..? A storm, ladies, is discovering the Board Of Studies (drumroll, please) Inspectors are coming the first day of next term, as we at the school I teach at discovered yesterday ..

I think it comes back to too much form and not enough variety, Suzyq. The big trap with following a set course with a teacher is that suddenly the spark goes and the fun goes with it. Why not just go out and buy a sheet of music you really like, in a good key, not syncopated, without a lot of accidentals, and try to play it?
Better still, tell your teacher you want to improvise, for a change.
Good Heavens, the city you live in produced some of the greatest modern musicians who have ever lived, and most of them improvised a different version of a piece each time they played it..Gershwin, for example.
Toonz says: ""Maybe go back and look at a piece from long ago that you were struggling with and thought you would NEVER get."" and that is a great idea, but I still think a bit more Suzyq and a lot less Teacher imput is the secret to break out of the slump.
Good luck with it.

suzyq
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posted: 4/8/2005 at 7:44:55 AM ET
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Hi Pete & Toonz,

Thanks for your good advice, I know this is just a passing phase. It's a good thing that I remember the ups and downs from dance training - but it's a pain in the neck.

Guess it comes with the territory and I'll just have to muddle through it.

Pete you are right about all the great artists that have traveled through New York in fact on Tuesday 4/12 I'm going to hear Martha Argerich (hope she doesn't cancel).

I keep in mind where I was when I first started when all those notes on a page of music looked like cute lines and dots and the only thing I could find was middle C - thanks again for getting back to me - it really helps.



suzyq
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posted: 4/13/2005 at 1:18:33 AM ET
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Hi Pete and Toonz,

I just got back from a Martha Argerich concert. She is music - her fingers seem to hover above the keys and make such beautiful music.

Just want to thank you both for you good sensible advice. I'm back on track again and will keep plugging along.

toonz
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posted: 4/13/2005 at 1:35:06 AM ET
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Any time Suzyq.

It sounds like the concert was inspirational. I love going to concerts and musicals of any kind. I am going to the "Green Day" concert here in Winnipeg on May 17th. I hope to find Billie Joe Armstrong just as inspirational. Perhaps I'll pick up a few tips. Lol.

imnidiot
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posted: 4/24/2005 at 9:26:31 PM ET
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I am intwersted in learning to distinguish the difference between all the different musical key signiatures. Does your site contain any of this info, since I compose music, and don't have a good background in reading music? Thanks, Don

imnidiot
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posted: 4/24/2005 at 9:50:57 PM ET
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I'm in the LBC, I am teaching myself to read music from a site tha maintube suggested, plus I get some help from different musicians I know. I also learn something new everytime I play and sing at church. I forgot to mention that I turned 49 in february, so I guess I qualify. Adults do have high expectations, which can cause frustration and the urge to give up, but the same is true for parents of young music students. We need to "expect" great things of ourselves, otherwise, there's no reason to attempt anything new. Neither is it selfish, or silly. We owe it to ourselves to continually learn new things. There is a great saying I heard on a relatively new radio station in my area,(the world is full of willing people. Those willing to work, and those willing to watch). Those willing to watch are the uninspired and unambitious, and that is why welfare and other social programs exist. I will persist with my musical endeavers regardless of the outcome, because I love music passionately, and the passion grows as I grow older. I want to be able to say "the older I get the better I become", not "the older I get the better Iwas".

I am intwersted in learning to distinguish the difference between all the different musical key signiatures. Does your site contain any of this info, since I compose music, and don't have a good background in reading music? Thanks, Don

Pete
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posted: 4/24/2005 at 11:38:18 PM ET
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..another mere stripling in the age (Nurse! Bring my Depends!) stakes, Don
So what is the LBC?
At 58 I learn something every day, and I plan to keep doing that untill I drop off the music-stand. At the moment it's Shakuhachi.
I'm learning "'Dawn Mantras"", by Ross Edwards, which also includes an intro on Didjeridu and a childrens choir.
Well worth having a listen to if you can track down an MP3 of it or a CD.
Edwards is, I'm proud to say, an Australian composer, and this is one of the most striking pieces of music you will ever encounter, I'm sure of that.

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